Dr. Wayne Dyer

When I heard that Dr. Wayne Dyer had a book entitled, The Power of Intention, I was intent to have a one-on-one discussion with him about this universal force in nature, especially after my recent conversation with Dr. Deepak Chopra on SynchroDestiny.

Dr. Chopra had this to say about the power of intention, “…we unusually think of intention as just a thought but intention is a force in nature. Scientist who recognizes this talk about a phenomenon called Teleology which is used to explain biological evolution which says if you know the intended outcome in evolution you will be able to predict the biological outcome for it. For example, a giraffe has a long neck because the intended outcome was to reach up to the tree and eat the leaf. A camel has a certain anatomy because its intended outcome was to walk the desert and there was no water. So intentions are responsible for what we call creativity in nature and they are part of the forces of nature as gravity, as much as electromagneticism, as much as the sub atomic forces are. Once you realize that you learn to harness a part of intention by going to that level where in nature the entire universe is really a tapestry of intention.”

Intention is generally viewed as a pit-bull kind of determination propelling one to succeed at all costs by never giving up on an inner picture. In this view, an attitude that combines hard work with an indefatigable drive toward excellence is the way to succeed. However, intention is viewed very differently in Dr. Wayne W. Dyer’s book, The Power of Intention. Dr. Dyer has researched intention as a force in the universe that allows the act of creation to take place. This book explores intention—not as something you do—but as an energy you’re a part of. We’re all intended here through the invisible power of intention. This is the first book to look at intention as a field of energy that you can access to begin co-creating your life in the way you desire.

Part I deals with the principles of intention, offering true stories and examples on ways to make the connection. Dr. Dyer identifies the attributes of the all-creating universal mind of intention as creative, kind, loving, beautiful, expanding, endlessly abundant, and receptive, explaining the importance of emulating this source of creativity. In Part II, Dr. Dyer offers an intention guide with specific ways to apply the co-creating principles in daily life. Part III is an exhilarating description of Dr. Dyer’s vision of a world in harmony with the universal mind of intention.

Dr. Wayne W. Dyer is an internationally renowned author and speaker in the field of self-development. He has written numerous bestselling books, including There’s a Spiritual Solution to Every Problem, Dr. Wayne Dyer’s 10 Secrets for Success and Inner PeaceGetting In the Gap, A Promise Is a Promise, and Your Sacred Self, has created a number of audios and videos; and has appeared on thousands of television and radio programs, including The Today Show, The Tonight Show, and Oprah.

With unique interpretations of the scientific and metaphysical philosophies of history’s greatest thinkers, Dr. Dyer has inspired countless people to enjoy richer, more spiritual lives. In the following interview, he talks about the power of intention and his own life’s path.

Philippe Matthews
What exactly is the power of intention?

The Power of Intention

Dr. Dyer
“Most people think of intention as if they have an intention to do something then nothing is going to stop me. It’s like a pit-bull attitude. A lot of the great teachings, particularly the teachings of Castaneda and that whole world of sorcery, they talk about intent not as something that you do but as a field of energy that everything in the universe is intended here from the source.”

Philippe Matthews
When you ask the question where do I come from, most people speak of conception but in actuality we come from divine intention, yes?

Dr. Dyer
“Quantum physics teaches us that when you look at an atom and try and take it down to its tiniest component you will find that there are no particles in there. Basically, it’s a field of energy and that field of energy that we come from is invisible and has no form. I think the basis of quantum physics is that particles do not create more particles and that’s what Jesus said more than two thousand years ago, ‘it’s the Spirit that gives life.’ Everything is intended here from a source.”

Philippe Matthews
What is the basis of your book, The Power of Intention?

Dr. Dyer
“The basis of this book is that you have to be like that from which you emanated. You have to reconnect with your source. What does this energy field that is responsible for everything, including the minerals, the vegetables, the animals, the trees, the automobiles, the planets; everything that shows up from this invisible field of energy called intention. What does it look like, what does it sound like, what does it feel like? You have to be like that. When we got here from this field of intention, we took on something called the ego and it convinced us that we are separate from God and we are separate from our source and everybody else and who we are is not this divine energy. We have a tendency to believe that who we are is what we have, what we do and who we defeat and how much stuff we collect and what are reputations are. This is about reconnecting to our source. Castaneda said, ‘it isn’t a question of whether you are connected to source, everything is connected to source, you wouldn’t be here if it weren’t.’ The real question is how dirty is the link between yourself and your source. This is about cleaning up the link and living from source energy – that is the power of intention.”

Philippe Matthews
So intention is a force of nature?

Dr. Dyer
“It is a force of nature and when you connect to it and act like it then you regain the same power that it has because you and it are one. Once you reconnect to it and start living at that energy level, you have the power to create, you have the power to manifest, you have the power to heal, you have the power to attract into your life virtually anyone with any assistance you need for whatever it is you would like to have in your life. You virtually become a magician if you will, but it means staying with source energy. I call them the seven faces of intention and one of them for example, is the face of kindness. An energy field that can create worlds, doesn’t need to create anything that is unkind toward it. It doesn’t have any hatred in it so every single time you have a thought that is unkind toward someone else or something else you have left source energy. You have resisted being at source energy and you have lost your ability to intend.”

Philippe Matthews
You began your inspiration for this book during your surgery as you were completing A Spiritual Solution to Every Problem is that correct?

Dr. Dyer
“Yes, and I came across a quote that is the display quote for the opening chapter in The Power of Intention, ‘In the universe there is an immeasurable, indescribable force which shamans call intent, and absolutely everything that exists in the entire cosmos is attached to intent by a connecting link.’ I carried that around with me and thought about it.”

Philippe Matthews
The Power of Intention has become a powerful PBS Special but your message is energy in expression across the world.

Dr. Dyer
“Even doing an interview with you; putting it out on the internet, this is a shift in energy and it’s the kind of shift that the whole planet, including the George W. Bush’s, the Sadaam’s, the Rumfeld’s and everybody else out there — we really need to shift to this kind of awareness that all of us come from the same source and as the native American’s say, ‘No tree has branches so foolish as to fight among themselves.’ We have to learn that lesson.”

Philippe Matthews
The masses are searching for something much higher than what they have been receiving each week through their current doctrines and sources.

Dr. Dyer
“I think people are leaving organized religion in massive numbers and one of the reasons that they are doing it is because if you measure organized religion on the Hawkins scale of whether it weakens or strengthens you, when you ask people questions about organized religion and what impact it has on their life and you do kinesthesiological tests, you’ll see that it weakens you because organized religion divides people up. It compartmentalizes people and makes some people eligible and some people not, whereas spirituality is something that unites people. Anything that unites us as a people strengthens us and anything that divides us weakens us. We have to look at what are the things out there that divide us and carve us up. Our political organizations, our sense of nationalism, our patriotism, our religion, our organizations – so much of that stuff is designed to pit one of us against the other. There is not enough out there that really looks at how we are all connected and come from the same source.”

Philippe Matthews
So the power of intention is really a part of our normal spiritual/human evolution…

Dr. Dyer
“Yes, if you want to know what it sounds like, it’s Krishna who is the voice in the Bhagavad Gita speaking, ‘I am the source of all. Everything emanates from me.’ If you want to know what it feels like, if you open up the Torah in the Old Testament, the opening line in Genesis 1:1 says ‘In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.’ Then if you look at Genesis 1:31 it says, ‘And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.’ Good and God are the same thing. So, what does it feel like to be connected to the source? It feels good. If you call my cell phone and listen to the message, it says, ‘Hi, this is Wayne Dyer that you’ve reached and I want to feel good. If your message is designed to do anything other than that, you’ve reached the wrong number and I suggest that you call Dr. Phil!’ Feeling good doesn’t just mean feeling giddy or high, it means I want to feel God. God and good become the same. So when you say, ‘I want to feel good,’ what you are really saying is, ‘I want to feel God,’ which means I want to feel exactly like that sense of wellbeing that everything emanates from.”

“People say how can they feel good when there is so much bad going around? With so many people out there who are being mean to each other. My sister-in-law has cancer. Soldiers are dying from explosions; my response to that is you can’t feel bad enough to make someone else’s life better. You can’t get confused enough to un-confuse one person. You can’t get sick enough to heal one person out there so anytime you are feeling anything other than the good or God, what you are doing is contributing to rather than encouraging others to reconnect to their source.”

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Marianne Williamson

Marianne Williamson is an internationally acclaimed author and lecturer. She has published eight books, four of which – including the mega bestseller A Return to Love and Everyday Grace – have been #1 New York Times bestsellers. Her titles also include Illuminata, A Woman’s Worth, and Healing the Soul of America. She also edited Imagine: What American Could Be in the 21st Century, a compilation of essays by some of America’s most visionary thinkers.

Marianne has been a popular guest on numerous television programs such as Oprah, Larry King Live, Good Morning America, and Charlie Rose.

She has lectured professionally since 1983. In 1989, she founded Project Angel Food (http://www.projectangelfood.org), a meals-on-wheels program that serves homebound people with AIDS in the Los Angeles area. Today, Project Angel Food serves over 1,000 people daily.

In a conversation with Marianne, not long after 911 about her book, The Gift of Change: Spiritual Guidance for a Radically New Life, released by Harper Collins, I asked her how did this book come about?

Marianne Williamson
“I think when you get to meet anybody as a reader; to really reach them is if you are speaking from what is true to you. All of my books are speaking from where I was at that moment. What am I thinking about?  What am I going through? This book is no different. I was really fascinated by this principle in A Course in Miracles that the moment a mistake occurs, the complete healing of the mistake, the solution to any problem is born into the mind of God the moment the mistake occurs. I was really interested in how that applied to the World Trade Center bombings being hit by those planes. If you follow the principles in A Course In Miracles, it will tell that the moment the planes hit the World Trade Center this plan was created that would completely heal this whole problem but God can’t do for us what He can’t do through us.”

Philippe “SHOCK” Matthews
Talk to me about God’s Plan.

Marianne Williamson
“We say that God has a plan by definition it’s a plan that people carry out but the state of the world we are in now reflects the state of consciousness we’ve been in. So to say God has a plan for the healing of the world means also God has a plan for us becoming the people we need to be. It seems to me that the stress, not just that the world has been in but so many individuals have been in the last year or two has been as though subconsciously we’ve been putting ourselves through changes that would come about when we face the issues we need to face in order to breakthrough and become the people we need to be.”

Philippe “SHOCK” Matthews
In your introduction of the book; “The Challenge to Grow”, you talk about a collective depression.  Please explain what you meant by that.

Marianne Williamson
“I do think there is a collective depression because after 9/11 and what I talk about in the book is that we don’t have a positive conversation about emotional depth, spiritual depth and intellectual depth. Case in point, there is a singer, Jessica Simpson and her husband Nick. Maybe I have heard this woman sing one song on television but I do know this, I can’t go anywhere; buy a carton of milk or pass a newsstand without being confronted by these magazines that ask the question, ‘will Jessica and Nick’s marriage make it?’ I don’t even know who these people are but I do know this. There are people dieing in Iraq, I know that we have not handled this terrorism issue, I know that a lot of the world is angry at us and I know that there is a lot of human suffering so why are we obsessed and why is the media focusing on whether or not Jessica and Nick’s marriage makes it?  This is a perfect example of the neurosis of our popular culture.”

Philippe “SHOCK” Matthews
Talk to me about this social avoidance and detachment. How dangerous is this for the collective consciousness?

Marianne Williamson
“I think that in an individual’s life, it’s really to your detriment if you don’t look at your own mistakes. You never look at your own failings and you never look at your weaknesses. If you go to therapy and you only talk about what you are doing right, you have the wrong therapist. Self awareness is the key to everything. Once you know that your life is a reflection of your consciousness then you know to look at your own self and your own failings is absolutely imperative if you want to move forward. But when it comes to our national life, which is the same dynamic because all a nation is a collection of individuals. What happens here is that in our national life if anybody says, ‘well, America needs to look at their own failings and their own weaknesses.”

Philippe “SHOCK” Matthews
Is there something we as Americans should focus on?

Marianne Williamson
“The people of the United States really need to take a look at what their foreign policy has been over the last two decades; how it has affected the world; what people attitudes are to us… which by the way, people were eager to have an investigation right after 9/11. The average American was asking, ‘why do they hate us?’ but then we went into this mode of war where all you are suppose to do is be a cheerleader for revenge and if you questioned this at all whether or not America needs to look at its own failings, you were unpatriotic. They would say that you are blaming America which of course you are not. So that’s where we are. We can have meaningful conversations as individuals but our worst problems are not as individuals. Many of our worst problems are collective. They are problems that you and I are having together, so deepening the popular dialogue, deepening the collective conversations I believe is the real imperative of this moment.”

Philippe “SHOCK” Matthews
How do we begin deepening the collective dialogue?

Marianne Williamson
“Well, you are doing it! Media sources, usually alternative media sources because the mainstream media is very much a hand maiden of the status quo, very much locked into ‘let’s keep it light.’ But people like yourself Philippe, and other people like yourself all over this country who represent an alternative media that present a different gestalt a different conversation and I think if you put it all together, there is a lot of it out there.”

Philippe “SHOCK” Matthews
Have we come far from 911 or are we back in the same collective consciousness that got us there?

Marianne Williamson
“Yes that what our leadership told us to do. Bush’s line was basically we hadn’t done anything wrong and that we are so good and so free that people are jealous of us and all we have to do is keep shopping and we’ll take care of it. That’s basically been the party line. While there is some truth in that, I do think there are people who are jealous of us because we are good and free but I don’t think that is the whole story and that’s the importance of leadership and that is the line that emanated from the White House and a line that a lot of people followed.”

Philippe “SHOCK” Matthews
On page 7 in your introduction, you say “Most of us live with a deep, subconscious longing for another kind of world.” What did you mean by that?

Marianne Williamson
“Obviously we all feel in our hearts that some magic is missing. Why do you think books like Harry Potter are so phenomenally popular? Its not just children its adults as well who wish for something beyond the veil. That’s why we read fiction, that’s why we go to the movies, that’s why we listen to music, read poetry and strive in all kinds of ways.  There’s a magic we get; we get it when a baby is born, when we fall in love and even in an ironic way when someone dies. The mystery hits that pierces the veil of illusion and we are reminded of something bigger than this and I think it’s the longing of our souls.”

Philippe “SHOCK” Matthews
Talk to me about how we avoid the truth of what is happening to us?

Marianne Williamson
“I think we need to understand that the popular culture in America today is toxic and we have to make a conscious decision to detach from it more. That doesn’t mean pieces of it aren’t fun and escape and entertainment every once and a while is not a good thing. I’m not prudish or over serious, I’m just saying there is a general tenor of dialogue that is very, very shallow.  We are in a time in our history when we cannot afford to be shallow, we cannot afford to turn away from the deeper conversation that begs to be had. So that is number one; number two I think if you really want to become a part of the solution that you need to genuinely take part in some kind of religious or spiritual practice — something that involves prayer, something that involves meditation, something that involves a serious effort to forgive.”

Philippe “SHOCK” Matthews
Talk to me about making a choice in the moment.

Marianne Williamson
“In every moment we make a choice; our heart is open or our heart is closed; you are blaming somebody or you are blessing somebody; you are bitching and moaning about what you are not getting or you are asking what you might contribute.  You are looking at infinite possibilities and claiming them for yourself or you are thinking along the lines of ‘oh I can’t and it won’t happen for me.’ In the course in miracles there is a line that says, ‘We achieve so little because our minds are undisciplined.’ We have flabby minds with fear-based thoughts or limited thoughts or scarcity based thoughts and we can change that.”

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Dr. John F. Demartini

At the age of seven, John Demartini was told he had a learning disability and would never read, write or communicate normally. At fourteen, he dropped out of school, left his Texas home and headed for the California coast.

By seventeen, he had ended up in Hawaii, surfing the waves of Oahu’s famous North Shore where he almost died from strychnine poisoning. His road to recovery led him to Dr. Paul Bragg, the ninety-three year old man who would change his life forever by instructing him to repeat one simple affirmation every day: “I am a genius and I apply my wisdom.”

Today, he lectures, teaches and consults internationally with a mission to inspire wisdom, fulfillment, leadership and healing in individuals who desire to achieve their full potential. His personal and professional development seminars and programs explore diverse topics ranging from the arts and sciences, human potential technologies to the world religions and philosophies. His life’s work is the study and exploration of over 200 different disciplines in pursuit of what he calls Universal Principles of Life.

Founder of The Concourse of Wisdom and creator of The Quantum Collapse Process®, Dr. Demartini’s understanding of the power of love is reshaping psychology as we know it. His revolutionary personal transformation methodologies help tens of thousands of individuals find greater order within their lives by enabling them to live with greater clarity, certainty and presence. Dr. Demartini’s books and programs, including The Breakthrough Experience, Count Your Blessings, You’re Never Given a Problem You Can’t Solve, Building Wealth F.A.S.T., Purpose – Life’s Driving Force and The Principles and Methods of Self-Actualization continue to inspire thousands more.

Dr. Demartini’s latest book, How to Make One Hell of a Profit and Still Get to Heaven has swept the country and has taken Australia by storm.  In this content-rich interview, Dr. John F. Demartini shares some of the most effective techniques of building wealth I have come across.

Philippe Matthews
How to make one hell of a profit and still get to heaven.  Why this title?

Dr. Demartini
“I was in New York about seven or eight years ago, sitting in a restaurant on Madison Avenue and that title popped into my head. I had desired to write a book with that title for quite a while and didn’t get around to doing it until this last year. But it had been sitting there daggling in my brain for all that time and finally I got down to writing it.”

Philippe Matthews
What is heaven and what is hell? You say they are states of mind and not states of places.

Dr. Demartini
“Throughout the ages, man has referred to or had a desire for a pleasurable place and the desire to avoid a painful place in our minds and in our life. that has been conceptually evolved in the brain and if I were to define heaven as I do in the book, I would define it as a place where we are grateful and feel satiated and full and we are appreciative of our existence. That could be perceived as something in this existence and this life or we can perceive it occurring in the after-life but that is something we can’t demonstrate so I think it is best defined as a state of fulfillment and gratitude and appreciation for what is as it is. Hell is obviously the opposite in the sense that we are ungrateful and it’s not stratifying and we have a desire for something that is unattained.”

Philippe Matthews
What is the overall message you want to convey in this book?

Dr. Demartini
“The main thing that started it and drove the book was that so many people as I travel the world and share my work, many people have an internal conflict and sometimes internal dialogue possibly from religious instruction, from social instruction that creates a conflict between them receiving and giving.  Receiving wealth and feeling deserving of it and putting a value on building affluence and wealth in their life.  This conflict I have seen over and over again and it is my attempt to try and assist people to get past and through that initiation and conflict to help them receive what they really desire in their heart and what they feel they are here for and deserve to have.”

Philippe Matthews
You say that the universe is nothing more than light many different frequencies and so are we. Explain.

Dr. Demartini
“When we break our body down, and reduce it down to its systems, organs, tissues, cells, organelles – down to the molecules, atoms and down into the subatomic particles, all of the atoms and subatomic particles make up protons, electrons, neutrons and ultimately, those are broken down into components of light.  In fact, every atom has a signature frequency of light which is actually just a vibration of light.  When we break it down we realize that our body is literally frozen, liquid or congealed light.  We are literally a vibrational system of light that is now demonstrating a reception and broadcasting, like radio receiver, to other human beings and other life.  We are literally tuning systems so our consciousness is like a tuning device and we can attune to more grateful states when we have a balanced perspective and tune to more ungrateful states when we have an imbalanced perspective. When we bring order to our financial life, we are grateful and when we have chaos in our financial life we are ungrateful which are heaven and hell.”

“To the degree that we manage money wisely we receive more money to manage and it’s not how much we receive its how we manage what we receive that determines our financial affluence.”

Philippe Matthews
The concept of heaven/hell is really a lopsided perception being too far to the left and too far to the right?

Dr. Demartini
“When we have a poised and balanced state of consciousness, we see order around us and we have no desire to change what our existence is and we are grateful.”

Philippe Matthews
When spirit (cause) and matter (effect) come equally and fully together in your consciousness, heaven is born.  Elaborate.

Dr. Demartini
“Our desires and realities are one.  The things that we are seeking we realize are not missing and they are present. Many times the things we seek are actually present around us but are in a form we are not recognizing and the hexarchy of our values are determining the form.  Because we sometimes we infatuate with other authority figures, we attempt to inject their values into our life and live them and therefore because of it we can’t see that the things we actually desire from our own values are actually there but we can’t see them because we are trying to live someone else’s.”

Philippe Matthews
Wow! So nothing is really missing?

Dr. Demartini
“Nothing is really missing; it’s just in another form.  The book is not only a strategy on how to build wealth but it also has a psychology to help you realize you are already abundantly living.”

Philippe Matthews
You say it is important to pay yourself first – why?

Dr. Demartini
“We have a temple within and we have temples without – the one within and the many without.  It is wise to not exclude our spiritual temple within as we have the spiritual temples without.  It is wise to invest in both.  If we are going to do a tithe, it is best to do both simultaneously. If we are going to tithe to the outer world it’s also wise to tithe to that temple within.  That’s inclusive of the same temple.  What many people do is forsake themselves for others which was originally, when I traced back the history from that; a marketing ploy by religious institutionalism more so than a necessity for human consciousness.  I think there is wisdom in having fair exchange.  My whole book is based on the idea of fair exchange.”

Philippe Matthews
Talk to me about the dynamic of fair exchange.

Dr. Demartini
“If you have ever been in a situation where you have owed someone money and when you do you have the anxiety and fear of having to come up with the money and pay it over time. You also have the guilt that if you don’t what are the repercussions.  If someone owes you money, you have the fear of whether they pay it or not and you have the guilt that you put yourself in the situation.  Fear is a future imagined emotion and guilt is a past remembered emotion and neither of them are centered in presence. A spiritual state occurs in a state of presence so anytime we owe somebody or they owe us something, we’re actually coming out of the state of presence which is a spiritual state, and entering into an emotionally-based or grounding state that weighs us down and we are not able to have what is called fair and even exchange. When you do a service and they pay you on the spot, it’s clean, it’s done and you are both freed and liberated by that moment and feel you’ve got a fair exchange.  Anytime you do the other; the purpose of adding interest on either side was to attempt to maintain presence when there has been an exchange that is not in time.  When you owe someone, you add interest to compensate for not being present and compensating for all of those emotions.  The purpose of having fair exchange was to maintain, presence, clarity, cleanness, and not have to burden the mind by unexpressed or incomplete transactions.”

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It was at Borders Books on Chicago’s State Street where women and men were lined up literally around the corner to get a glimpse at the Money-Making Maven, Suze Orman.  Signing autographs, smiling at strangers and shaking every hand that reached out to her made a successful book signing on The Road to Wealth.

This book hit the New York Times Bestseller’s list within its first weeks release, making Suze Orman a bona fide financial superstar! Suze shared with me, “Out of all the books I’ve written, I’m lovin’ this baby more than any of them!  9 Steps to Financial Freedom hit number one on the New York Time Bestsellers list which was an absolute phenomenon in itself but everybody said, ‘that’s not so hard – anybody can do that if you’re on Oprah 11 times.’  Courage to Be Rich comes out and goes right to number one on the New York Times Bestsellers list and everybody says, ‘oh, that’s not that hard – you had an entire PBS special behind you.  Road to Wealth comes out and one week after it comes out without any publicity whatsoever except for 4 minutes on the Today Show which is not enough to make a New York Times Bestseller; it hit the New York Times Bestsellers list within one week! What that says to me is that people are buying me now not being sold to me.”

The Road to Wealth was created by Suze’s world travels and past book tours; having thousands of people asking her every financial question imaginable.  Not being able to personally answer all of the emails, blogs, phone calls, she took all of those questions and answered them in The Road to Wealth.  “This book is staged according to every single stage of your financial life.  You get into debt; you have to get out of debt.  You meet somebody, you become financially intimate, and you have to know the difference between love and marriage. Once you get married, you need to buy a home – how do you do so? Now that you have a home, you need insurance to protect everything so how do you do that?  You need to start saving for your children’s education, how do you pay for college?  How about saving for your own retirement? Now if you’re going to save for your own retirement, what are you going to do? You need to know about stocks and mutual funds then you need to know about bonds, bond funds, annuities, wills and trusts.  So, this is an entire journey down your own road to wealth.”

Pound for pound, Road to Wealth is one of the most comprehensive financial advice books I’ve every read. Suze adds, “You are getting almost 600 pages and 2052 answered questions! America can not say they can’t find good financial advice and that they don’t know where to go. You will not have to buy another financial book in your life because this book will serve as a guide to you forever.”

NET WORTH VS SELF-WORTH

In the introduction of Road to Wealth, Suze expressed, “I strongly believe that the obstacles that keep us from having more and being more are rooted in the emotional, psychological, and spiritual conditions that have shaped our thoughts.”

I asked her to further define that statement does self-esteem play an integral role in money management?  “Everybody feels that money ultimately determines if you are happy or your emotional state of being.  If you have money, you’re happy – wrong!  It is your emotional state of being that determines how much money you have and ultimately get to keep.  Fear, shame and anger are the three internal obstacles to wealth.  Fear that you have credit card debt and you don’t know what you’re going to do.  You get this paycheck that fear rises, and you rush out to buy something because you define yourself by the things that you are because you’re so afraid that somebody is going to find out that you have credit card debt.  Shamed that you’re 45 years of age and don’t have a pot to pee in and you don’t know what you want to be when you grow up so, you go out and spend money.  Anger – because you’ve been in this marriage for 25 years and your husband just left you powerless and penniless and you are going to get even at him. Emotions rule your actions when it comes to money.”

Understanding how emotions can greatly affect your ability to get in or out of debt, what about the millions of people who silently feel they have no self-worth if they have not achieved a certain net worth?  “The problem is in the end when this is all over, there is not going to be one of us that is able to take a penny with us.  We are all going to go out empty handed, including me.  So, can somebody tell me what this is all about? True wealth is that which can never be diminished.  To be truly wealthy, you not only have to understand what you have but you have to understand who you are.  When your self worth means equally as much to you as your net worth then you have true financial freedom.”

YOUR DEBT SET POINT

You’ve heard of the “Set Point Theory” as it relates to your body weight, Suze believes our mindset as it relates to debt has a set point.  “Every single one of us has a Debt Set Point.  It’s like a teeter totter. On this end your debt goes up, up, up and here you are on the other end going down, down, down, down.  There comes a point where each and every one of us hits rock bottom and we realize that we are in serious debt trouble – that is our Debt Set Point.  It’s at that point that we start to get out of it but here is the problem; if you just simply worked on reducing your debt without reducing the weight of your own low self-esteem — your own low self-worth; it won’t work. Your low self-esteem, your low self-worth weighs heavier within you than anything else.  You’re sitting there at the bottom of the teeter totter. If you don’t work on that at the exact same time you’re working on reducing your debt what will happen is that your debt will start to come down but it will snap right back up and go even higher.  You’ve got to work on your self-worth along with net worth so that when you’re on the bottom you can raise those legs of yours and give yourself a push up and let your debt go down.”

Working on eliminating bad debt, Suze says also involves working on the reasons you got into debt in the first place.  This exactly what Robert Kiyosaki said in Segment 3 of my TV interview with him (See: http://bit.ly/4txMYg). Understanding the reason for debt Suze says, “That has to do with why are you spending money that you know you should not be spending – very simple.  You define yourself by the things you have around you rather than who you are.  You think that when other people see you they will define you and think great thoughts of you if you are leasing a fancy car, you live in a fancy home, you’re wearing designer clothes that are mortgaged to the department stores to the tune of 21-22%. You are nothing more than financial liars because everything that you have around you in mortgaged, leased or credit card rated and yet everybody thinks you have so much money because you look like you do and they all want to be like you.”

This psychological phenomenon of keeping up with the Jones’ or Kardashians one of the reasons people cannot break out of the cycle of debting. Suze says, “The reason they have that debt is because they have never looked at themselves – they don’t know who they are. They would not be able to answer the question, ‘who am I’ if they asked themselves that question without defining themselves by their cars, their homes, their job title.  Because they have never truly seen who they are, they only show people what they have.”

CREDIT CARD COMPANIES AND DEBT

On page 10 in Road to Wealth, Suze says, “It’s absolutely essential that you pay more than the minimum amount required each month if you want to get out of debt in a timely and cost effective manner.”  Of course, most people pay only the minimum or even less. But that behavior is a credit card companies dream. Suze says, “The credit card companies are vultures. You think they’re doing you a favor when they say to you, ‘Oh, you don’t have to pay your payment this month.’ and you’re thrilled but forget that they’re charging you interest to not have to do that.  For example, an $1100 credit card debt at an 18% interest rate, if you pay the minimum every single month that they require, it will take you 12 ½ years to pay it!  If you pay $10 more per month, it will reduce it from 12 ½ years to 6 year…period!  That’s why you’ve got to pay more than the minimum.  The goal of the credit card company is to get you to not pay as much as you want to because the less you pay the longer it goes, the longer it goes, the more interest they make on you and that’s what they’re in business to do.  That’s the biggest blowjob I’ve ever seen in my life! It’s true.  The only problem is that you don’t have a financial orgasm at the end!  You are seriously frustrated and all the viagra in the world is not going to help you in this one [LMAO]!”

PEOPLE, MONEY, THINGS

A powerful wealth mindset perspective that Suze offered was when she explained that “There is a major law of money and that is, ‘People first, then money then things.’ the reason is, is that money flows through people.  Money can’t do a darn thing without you. You pay for things, you write paychecks, you get the pay raise or give somebody the pay raise – so people have got to come first but that’s not how people live their life. They might live their life people first but that’s not the case with women.  Women care about their husbands first; their parents, their children, their next door neighbors, their employers and then…maybe then, they care about themselves. Most people care about the things that money can buy rather than money itself, which is why most people have more things in their household than money in their bank account. Because they define themselves by the things they have around them.  It goes back to the credit card debt.  We say to people this is what I do, this is what I have not this is who I am.”

Many of the multimillionaires whom I’ve interviewed over the years feel there are so many people in the world that are affected by poverty that it seems to be almost impossible for them to reinvent their lives.  Suze, disagrees, “Just ask Oprah that question honey – I’m not buying that one!  Money affects each and every one of us, and it is the currency of life and if you think about it; it is a physical manifestation of how we feel about who we are. There are so many people born into poverty who are seriously rich today.  There are so many people who are born into serious money who are poverty stricken today – emotions dictate how much you have and get to keep.  It has nothing to do with money.”

Okay Suze, so why is there a huge population of people who have emotional issues with money? For example, what about people who say they hate money? “If you hate money you hate yourself because money is nothing more than an extension of what you have created so how can you hate it.  You don’t hate your furniture… you don’t hate your bed. I laugh at this all the time because people take me into their homes and they show me their artwork, they’re showing me their silver collection, they’re trying to impress me by having me drink out of crystal – why even have them?  You’re going to break them and you can’t use them in the dishwasher and you have to wash them by hand and who has time to do that but that’s another story – they show this stuff off as if they are so proud.  However, if you brought somebody into a home and they had a pile of money sitting in the living room, you would think that they’re so crass, so rude and vulgar because when you look at money in money form, you hate it. But if you transform money into a chair, into a couch, into a fancy car, we admire it.  We are simply financially numb because we are not willing to look at financial reality.”

Alright Suze, here is my last question. Let’s take the people who hate money a step further and look at the people who spiritually feel that money is bad, wrong the root of all evil.  What is your response to this worldwide population of people?  “What’s wrong with all of you!?  You’re all making excuses because you feel money is dirty, because it’s in the bible.  Well, in those days, they all walked around in lion cloths as well.  The Arch Diosis was quoting to me about what Jesus said about money. Well look at the last supper, there was a lot of money that went into preparing all of that food!  Jesus would not be saying to you today if He were alive, ‘We all need to be poverty stricken.’ The churches operate on a lot of hats being passed around every single week so that the churches can continue to operate.  Money is the foundation of the church, yet you’re telling me that it’s harder to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man in heaven…oh please!  Do you know why the rich man can’t go to heaven?  He’s got to stay down here on earth to give all of these religious organizations money! God knew what He was doing. God knew to keep him down here on earth because he’s not going to do any good up there. You can’t take that money with you – God don’t need your money!  He’s doing just fine without it sweetheart.”

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